tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37371348.post5986747108211024314..comments2023-11-05T03:45:19.337-05:00Comments on Apparent Dip: Earthquakes, Radon, Satellites, and HumidityThermochronichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08606230819461771700noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37371348.post-11952527633761906532007-05-29T21:49:00.000-04:002007-05-29T21:49:00.000-04:00Sergey,Thank you for the response! I posted about ...Sergey,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for the response! I posted about this paper because I had never heard of the technique before, and it really intrigued me. As I say in my blog, I am a thermochronologist by training, so this paper came up in my attempt to broaden my skills. Thanks for the links also, I'll have to check them out.Thermochronichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08606230819461771700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37371348.post-88659062081483493112007-05-29T21:05:00.000-04:002007-05-29T21:05:00.000-04:00I'm just Sergey Pulinets, one of authors of the pa...I'm just Sergey Pulinets, one of authors of the paper.<BR/>The problem is that due to some discussion between seismologists they decided that radon is not a precursor and regular observations of radon were stopped in many countries (like after decree of Communist party). I have at least one direct one-to-one correlation between radon and humidity at Acapulco before Copala M7.4 earthquake in September 1995.<BR/><BR/>I accept the critics that data are not very convincing, but the aim of paper was to conmemmorate the 20-th annyversary of Michoacan earthquake in 1985, and we used tha very old data in paper format.<BR/><BR/>I published recently in Eos the short paper explaining not only the thermal but ionospheric anomalies as well.<BR/><BR/>If anybody wants more references, on can find the electronic versions of publications (including humidity calculations) at my WEB page:<BR/><BR/>http://tonatiuh.igeofcu.unam.mx/~pulse/online.htm<BR/><BR/>I'm open for any questions and discussions<BR/><BR/>Sincerely<BR/><BR/>Sergey Pulinetspulsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034572764774826265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37371348.post-33079624073016746732007-02-10T20:53:00.000-05:002007-02-10T20:53:00.000-05:00If odd behavior in animals predicted earthquakes a...If odd behavior in animals predicted earthquakes anyone who owned a rabbit and/or kitten would expect them every day.Thermochronichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08606230819461771700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37371348.post-75926373525323637172007-02-10T15:42:00.000-05:002007-02-10T15:42:00.000-05:00I recently watched a television program about anim...I recently watched a television program about animals and their apparent sensitivity to 'pre-shocks'. The one thing that was missing in the show, however, was what seismometers have actually recorded with reference to these anecdotal stories. That is, even though humans can't feel these, what did our machines feel?<BR/><BR/>The other thing in the show that I disliked was using words like 'predict' and 'warn' with regards to animals. They aren't actively engaged in prediction (at least not in the way we do)...they are responding/reacting to something. We then have interpret it and use it as a warning.BrianRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04930245080333999989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37371348.post-30970040242698754332007-02-08T21:12:00.000-05:002007-02-08T21:12:00.000-05:00I'm too lazy to actually to calculations on the ba...I'm too lazy to actually to calculations on the back of the envelope, but just glancing at the flap from across the room, it seems like the total heat available from Radon << atmospheric specific heat, and radon <<< atmospheric water content.<BR/><BR/>Also, if this effect is true, there should be a relationship between the magnitude of the effect and the mafic/felsic ratio of the rocks on the fault, since mafics are low in U.<BR/><BR/>Note that for specific heat of water to be a factor, the water has to stay liquid. If it immediately re-evaporates, then the dQ is zilch. Ditto if you form hydrated ions that re-react back into satble molecules.<BR/><BR/>I suppose all the math is in his '04 book, but as I said, I'm lazy.C W Mageehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706100504739548720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37371348.post-52331389398056418712007-02-08T14:04:00.000-05:002007-02-08T14:04:00.000-05:00Got me. I meant relatively more convincing when co...Got me. I meant relatively more convincing when compared with the figures of temp and humidity, which are very noisy. Still intrigued.Thermochronichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08606230819461771700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37371348.post-62467389706518657262007-02-08T13:33:00.000-05:002007-02-08T13:33:00.000-05:00You found that figure convincing? I won't believe ...You found that figure convincing? I won't believe it until I see a much longer record - what they've provided is not enough to get a sense of normal seasonal variability.Yami McMootshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396829286693323508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37371348.post-56404752587689265902007-02-08T09:10:00.000-05:002007-02-08T09:10:00.000-05:00I meant to add that as a predictive tool I also ag...I meant to add that as a predictive tool I also agree it seems very far off, if possible at all.Thermochronichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08606230819461771700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37371348.post-85359353544027747462007-02-08T09:08:00.000-05:002007-02-08T09:08:00.000-05:00I agree. The figure they have showing soil radon c...I agree. The figure they have showing soil radon concentrations, measured independently, is more convincing that just the temp and humidity. Thanks for the link to your post.Thermochronichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08606230819461771700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37371348.post-71675663043905193682007-02-08T08:56:00.000-05:002007-02-08T08:56:00.000-05:00I've blogged about similar phenomena before - my t...I've <A HREF="http://highlyallochthonous.blogspot.com/2006/05/algae-and-earthquake-precursors.html" REL="nofollow">blogged about similar phenomena</A> before - my take is that although it seems that these phenomena <I>sometimes</I> appear to precede earthquakes, the occurence of similar signals without any ensuing earthquake somewhat limits their usefulness as a diagnostic tool - it's clear that any relationship to tectonic activity is not a simple one.Chris Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923865059164569384noreply@blogger.com